What is wrong in owning a diesel car
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  • 01-Apr-2008 2:18 PM

    • krajdba@...
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    What is wrong in owning a diesel car

    Hi Folks

    I drive daily to my office in my Santro zing XG, this is a used car. Now, after an year of driving and experience on road. I am planning to buy a NEW car. And keeping fuel prices in view I would like to go for New fiat multijet diesel car.

    However, the dealers are discourging saying that diesel is good only for long dirves, for someone who makes 50 or more kilometers a day. And also they said I need to start and keep it running for 5-10 minutes on weekends/holidays when I am not driving.

    Daily I make between 15- 20 KM, do you think a diesel car is suitble for me?  What problems I may face if I own a diesel car? what are the maintenance cost? Engine life? etc.

    Your feedback is highly appreciated.

    Thanks & Regards 

    Rajesh

     

  • 03-Apr-2008 12:28 PM In reply to

    • ravindra@...
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    Re: What is wrong in owning a diesel car

    WORKING PRINCIPLE OF DIESEL ENGINES

    As I said, diesel engine works on the diesel cycle devised by Rudolph diesel.

    In the diesel engine atmospheric air is drawn into the engine cylinder and is compressed by the piston to high pressure and temperature. This temperature is above the ignition temperature of the fuel. Just before the end of the compression stroke, the fuel is injected as a fine spray by means of a fuel injector.

    Due to the extreme conditions inside the compressed cylinder the FUEL LITERALLY EXPLODES and the gases expand the cylinder, and this is what we obtain as the mechanical power from the engine.

    As the ignition of the fuel takes place due to high pressure and temperature brought about by the compression of air inside the cylinder, the engine is called the CI ENGINE or the compression ignition engine.

    WORKING PRINCIPLE OF PETROL ENGINE
       
    Petrol engine operates on the Otto cycle. Petrol is a highly volatile fuel than diesel. As most of you may have noticed, it vapourises very easily.

    In the petrol engine, many of you may have seen a carburetor associated with it. The device is used to mix a desired quantity of petrol and air. This fuel air mixture is injected into the engine cylinder, as only air is compressed and fuel is injected later in the diesel engine. This fuel air mixture in the engine cylinder is BURNT BY USING THE SPARK provided by the spark plug. The gases expand, and we get the power output.

    As the ignition takes place with the help of the spark plug, the petrol engine is called a Spark ignition engine or the SI ENGINE. The number of spark plugs in a cylinder can be varied, and that is what DTSi stands for in the pulsar. It has two spark plugs, so it is called the digital twin spark ignition.


    COMPARISON OF PETROL AND DIESEL ENGINES

    The petrol and diesel engines have many differences. We will consider it one by one.

    1.     FUEL: in the SI engine, a highly volatile fuel such as petrol is used. As Arnab explained in his review, petrol is much more refined than diesel and so it costs a lot more. So diesel engines are going to be lighter on your pockets as far as the fuel efficiency is concerned.

    2.     Fuel introduction: In petrol engines, fuel air mixture is introduced into the engine, whereas in the diesel engine, fuel is injected directly into the engine in the form of a fine spray.

    3.     Power output: this is one point in Arnab’s review that many people didn?t agree. DIESEL ENGINE HAS MORE POWER THAN PETROL ENGINE. This is true guys. But there is a small condition for the statement, and the complete statement would be DIESEL ENGINES HAVE MORE POWER THAN PETROL ENGINES FOR THE SAME QUANTITY OF FUEL CONSUMED. This occurs due to the fact that diesel engines have a higher compression ratio than the petrol engines.

    4.     WEIGHT: in the diesel engine, due to the high pressure and temperature the fuel literally explodes. So the engine is subjected to a lot of pressure and since it is combustion ignition also, it has to stand very high pressures than the petrol engine. So the diesel engine has to be built much more stronger than the average petrol engine. This makes the engine and the car heavier.

    5.     MAINTENANCE COST: the maintenance costs are almost similar. But in the long run, diesel engines require most cost on maintenance because diesel is less refined than petrol and so there can be many deposits clogging up the engine which may require cleaning, and also it subjected to tougher working conditions than the petrol engine.

    6.     FUEL ECONOMY: in diesel engines, diesel is injected into the engine in the form of a fine spray. The engine has better fuel economy at all working conditions. Combined with the fact that diesel is cheaper, this is definitely going to be much more pocket friendly.

    7.     INITIAL COST: the initial coat of a diesel engine is more than that of a petrol engine as it is to be built tougher and also the injection of fuel in the form of the fine spray require highly modern laser technology, which explains for the fact that diesel engine technology is not fully developed in India.

    8.     ENGINE VIBRATION: In the diesel engine, due to the vigorous explosion of the fuel, the engine vibration and noise is lot more as compared to the petrol engine in which the fuel is nicely burnt.

    Overall speaking, if you want to financially sound in the long run, and is prepared to risk somewhat the joy of driving, and is prepared to bear the high initial cost, go for a diesel engine. But there are some things to look for before buying a diesel car.

    1.     Look for a TURBOCHARGER with the engine. They increase the performance of the car several fold. For e.g.: compare the Tata indigo and the Tata Indica, which share the same engine, but the former with the turbocharger.

    2.     Don’t go in for outdated diesel technology. Prefer a CRDi or the COMMON RAIL DIRECT INJECTION system, which decreases pollution, engine vibration and engine noise.

    3.     Don’t push the vehicle too hard to make it behave as a sport. It can be really harmful to the engine.

    4.     For vehicles with turbocharger (Psyxx, this includes your Scorpio too) please wait until the turbo comes on and then start the race. Till that go slow. The turbo only comes on above a certain rpm.

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  • 16-May-2008 3:15 PM In reply to

    • krajdba@...
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    Re: What is wrong in owning a diesel car

    Thank you for the detailed explanation.

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